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Good writeup of the actual pros and cons of "traditional" and "integrated" init systems: skarnet.com/projects/service-m
I for one would like to see those final bits of s6 get funded.

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@owl although from the comparison graph, it looks as though alpine linux could switch to s6-rc today, and all it would lose is declarative config syntax for simple stuff - which, compared with the gains and the roadmap, seems like a worthwhile tradeoff to me (but what do i know?)

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@millihertz Yeah, I don't know either. :)
What are container people doing? IDK.
I might use it myself though, but the missing bits would be nice to have too.

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@owl it turns out that at least some of what s6-rc is missing can be provided by 66-tools: web.obarun.org/software/66/lat

moreover, voidlinux already packages them, and it turns out to be not all that hard to switch over from runit: forum.obarun.org/viewtopic.php

this is good news for me - next time i set up a void box, i'll give this a go!

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@millihertz Nice!
I hadn't heard of Obarun until I read that s6 post, makes sense that they would have something like that. :)

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@owl nor had i... and it took me rereading to realise it was an actual distribution! that comes with jwm (my favourite window manager) as its non-minimal option :-)

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@owl and here's someone who s6'd void without using 66-tools, and only ran into a couple of annoyances doing so:

old.reddit.com/r/voidlinux/com

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@millihertz That's promising that it already seems to work pretty well on various distros. :)
I do think systemd has some benefits, and it would be nice with a direct alternative that has those benefits without being huge and creating new problems.

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