Which one will be the first to die? ☠️
@owl Noooot email. And people always /say/ Matrix Is Going To Die (And You Should Use XMPP Instead) but like, I doubt it will 'cause it's decentralized.
@owl the end of signal is nigh
@owl it's gotta be either signal or telegram. Depends on what the organizations behind them are gonna do
Telegram has apparently been funded by rich daddy up until now:
But now they need to figure out how to monetize their platform.
@owl @schratze regarding "apparently": wasn't it all very public from the beginning? Like that it was his way of giving back to society.
Also he became rich by creating a social network in Russia, and government forcibly took that company away from him (and basically exiled him from the country) because he refused to provide KGB with the information about opposition activists.
@owl email will never die
@owl Signal is very ripe for dying atm with their crypto shenanigans.
@owl only one of those have decided to get into cryptocurrencies
@owl ICQ still exists...
@pthenq1 That's cool :D
I thought it had shut down
@owl I feel like Signals market thingie is that they are super secure private and what not. But Jami seems to be beating them in that regard. So signal doesn't really have a niche. While Email is for business. Telegram for normal people. Matrix for bridges.
@owl Signal & their new shitcoin needs to die!
I voted Telegram would die first, I want to change my vote to Signal.
The crypto move is shitty enough, but implying that you will use the devices of random users to hack goverment systems? Oof...
If I had reason to believe I was going to cross a border, or otherwise have a bigger then zero expectation of invasive device checks, I would probably delete signal beforehand.
Imagine living under a opressive regime and reading that bragpost by Moxie...
Initially I found the post funny, then I got to the end, and I really wouldn't want to be a part of that little game without knowledge or consent.
I also voted Telegram because Signal at least still has E2EE that works, but it's sad that these are the two popular options (at least in my little bubble) :\
It's a interesting post and it took me a quite a while too. Especially to parse that last paragraph and to reach the obvious conclusion to what they are saying.
It's very wink-wink nudge-nudge, but the consequences could literally cost someone their life. Even if they are not serious about doing that, how are users supposed to know that? And still be able to trust you?
The only somewhat acceptable reason I can think of for this, and this would be some 5D chess type stuff. Is that someone allready exploited this vulnerability, and they are trying to take the blame for that persons actions.
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